In bomber escort, all 3 were involved all the way to the end. El Sapo Bevo's BFF Sponsor. The Lockheed P-38 Lightning is an American single seated, piston-engined fighter aircraft that was used during World War II.Developed for the United States Army Air Corps, the P-38 had distinctive twin booms and a central nacelle containing the cockpit and armament. I live in a modest home with an immodest array of firearms. P-47 Thunderbolt vs Bf 109G/K: Europe 1943-45 By: Martin Bowman Paperback 80 Pages. since Major Bong grew up where i live, i'm going to say P-38. It was an early-model, Razorback D (a D-10 to be precise) built by Curtiss rather than Republic. Fw-190 vs P-47 bf-109. This was due to the mighty power of its air-cooled, turbo-supercharged Double Wasp engine, combined with a brutish barrel-shaped airframe. vs the zero. The 47s were the first fighters with the range to escort the bombers on longer range missions. The email address for your Ubisoft account is currently: We have sent you an e-mail to enable you to verify your email address. And while the P-47 could reach altitudes in excess of 40,000 feet (12,000 … The three aircraft mentioned were not all fighters alone. Now, when i use these planes I get put into the 'Tier'(?) 
. P-38â¦â¦ the 'engineering' solution, P47⦠the 'brute power' solution. Edited by Ceejay73 on Monday 29th December 21:27. mk1fan. Comparison of P51 versus P47 & P38 (ca 1943), Comparison of P51 versus P47 & P38 (ca 1943) | Forums, http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2...llEnglish.html. But, it is faster in a dive and carries that speed longer. For my money the DeHaviland Mosquito was the best combo fighter/bomber around in WW11. While I love the P-38 (as I love nearly all old airplanes), I have to go with the P-47. The deadly firepower was totally destructive. Ok, you flyboys. They got regulated to ground support when the Mustangs appeared. I love the sleek looks of the Lightning, it was a powerful aircraft. Celebrated as one of the Pacific War’s best fighters, Lockheed’s Lightning earned a less-than enviable reputation in European air combat. II battles, which is fine by me, but if I swap my BR3.3 P38 out for my BR3.0 P47, I go into Tier III games...the P47 is a tier III plane with a lower BR than my TII P38. The P-47 hands down. Laughlin, of the 362nd Fighter Group, smokes a cigar with his dog mascot “Prince” inside the cockpit of his P-47D serial 44-33287 “Five By Five” (coded B8-A) A two-seat P-47 Thunderbolt nicknamed “Astra” of the 365th Fighter Group. It climbs and turns slower. Especially below 10.000 feet the P-47 feels like a dog compared to the other two. Fw190 would have the edge on the Me109. Don't be afraid of BDU pants, they are just pants after all. In order to create threads, posts, and interact with the Ubisoft forums you need to have a Ubisoft account with a verified email address. Probably because my dad flew thew before switching to B-17's. The 47 was tough as nails but flew like a brick. The 38 was dangerous to fly with its windows open. If this email address is not valid, or you no longer have access to it, you can update your account details at https://account.ubisoft.com or visit support.ubi.com to open a support ticket. P40 Kitty hawk, P38, A20, P40, F6F and others in that area. Bf-109 vs P-47 p-38-lightning. P-38 vs P-47 p-47-thunderbolt. More photos P-47 of the 325th Fighter Group 345th Fighter Squadron, 350th Fighter Group, 12th Air Force. Corsair and Fw190 would be fairly even, ditto for the Hellcat Please read and follow the instructions provided to complete this process. Gimme a compare contrast to the P-47 & P-38. P47 is a harder plane to fly from the get-go, but is superior in the long run. All Rights Reserved. CAPTCHA Code * Recent Posts. The japs hated it. Clearly the -51 has had the limelight. They look like round discs on the top of the booms. The Thunderbolt was equally powerful. (in the same way that the difference between a P51B and a P51C is simply one of where it was built). So step off! If its not going to be visible forget the p38 altogether. By Chuck Hawks and Rip Collins. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I know both were fast as hell & the P-38 had older tech set-ups by the time the P-47 came along. You can also see the intakes on the booms. The P38 Lightning was a great fighter bomber, fast, long range, manuverable. Me109 has advantage over p40. The zero is very nimble, but the twin engined p38 can out climb. AR15.COM is the worldâs largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. It had few rivals for speed at any altitude, and also few rivals for manuevering. The pilots also loved the P38, it was a rugged plane, and it was leathal. A design is a team effort, still, Schmued deserves much credit, since he drew the first drawing of the Twin Mustang with which he was awarded a US patent (#D144,938 in June 4, 1946). P-47 vs. Japanese Zero question(s) Discussion in 'Horn Depot' started by El Sapo, Jan 6, 2008. You had to close the canopy or weird flight characteristics would show up. Republic was acquired in 1965 by Fairchild, which became Fairchild Republic, manufacturer of … In order to be more efficient in your search, in what forum do you want to search ? It could move fast. This is my sigline, there are many like it but this one is mine. F-82 Twin Mustang vs P-38 Lightning (Edgar Schmued vs Kelly Johnson) Lockheed's Kelly Johnson certainly was a genius, but North American Aviation's Edgar Schmued designed a superior twin-engine fighter. the P38 is almost as big as the transport planes it is quite easy to hit it even with the tanks. [Last Edit: 7/28/2004 9:01:21 PM EST by CFII], [Last Edit: 7/28/2004 9:04:29 PM EST by Leisure_Shoot], [Last Edit: 7/28/2004 9:06:52 PM EST by inferno715], [Last Edit: 7/28/2004 10:09:06 PM EST by vito113], [Last Edit: 7/28/2004 10:16:51 PM EST by GunSlingAR]. The P38 was a much better fighter at high altitudes than well any other aircraft of tthe second world war. It was actually capable of power diving to near supersonic speeds (which killed many pilots in its early days, they actually had to install special flaps that could be deployed to get out of fast dives, without the flaps the sonic wave would buffet the aircraft severly and the tails would come apart as it approached the sped of sound). A fairly lightweight fighter, the USAAC was intrigued and moved the project forward as the XP-47 and XP-47A. What the F4U could do that they couldn't do was take off and land from a carrier. Lots of P38 talk here, so I'll offer the dissenting opinion. Third, expression of NOX-2 and the subunit, p47 phox phosphorylation (Ser345), was significantly increased in SHR (note that the phosphorylation of p47 phox Ser345 is required for NOX-2 activation 20 and is induced by activation of ERK-1/2 or p38 MAPK 21). The P47 was undoubtedly improved over time with the later, Republic-built, bubbletop D-25, -27, … There's a more elaborate version giving more detail, and while it has been years I went over this, Lowell's date for the story is early 1944, so it can't have been a long-nosed Fw 190 and it can't have been Galland. It's extra power also allowed it to carry 250 and 500 pound bombs, but that really cut down on its range, so was not done much. The Germans called it :The Forked Tailed Devil". I'm gettin to like the new improved beekeeper - 50% less tightass! Leave A Reply. Its primary armament was eight .50-caliber machine guns, and in the fighter-bomber ground-attack role it could carry five-inch rockets or a bomb load of 2,500 lb (1,100 kg). Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. P-47 vs Spitfire f4u-corsair. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. The Tempest was a thoroughbred air combat fighter and arguably the war’s best piston engined fighter, only really the FW190-D9 or TA-152 or Spit XIV get anywhere near. All IMHO ofcourse. Despite its considerable mass, the P-47’s 18-cylinder, 2,600-horsepower Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp engine (the same power plant used by the Vought Corsair and Grumman Hellcat) enabled the unwieldy Jug to keep pace with the Mustang.Both had a top speed of around 440 mph (700 km/h). The Lightning in the Pacific theater had no rivals, the 47 had did have competition with the FW190. The P-47 was built by Republic Aircraft. As I recall it carried four fifty caliber machine guns in the nose, as well as a cannon of some sort, Being that the guns were all in a central location they didn't have to be angled inwards to provide a tight pattern at long range, which gave it a distinct advantage in dogfights (your bullets went straight in front of you, unlike planes whose guns are on the wings which are angled so that the line of fire converges at about a thousand yards, the range may be different but I recall the theory well enough). P-47 vs F4U Prev Next . A significant part of that mail has suggested that I should have included the P-47 Thunderbolt instead of, or in addition to, the P-51 Mustang. - QuietShootr. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Your email address will not be published. In addition, when compared with that of the control group, the translocations of cytosolic Rac1, p47 phox, and p67 phox to membranes were observed after anisomycin treatment, which was also blocked by inhibition of p38 (Fig. I am trying to do some research for a short story I am writing but it is going painfully slow due to my slightly-better-than-dial-up connection out here in the country. it is annoying to fly the P38 against the tiny planes of the Germans and the Soviets. P-47 vs Fw190: P36? and the other fighters need one shot of the high explosives to shoot an american pilot out of the cockpit. A funny point to add is that the p38 had a yoke, not a stick, for flight control. Its simple economics. A contract was awarded in November 1939, however the USAAC, watching the early months of World War II, soon concluded that the proposed fighter was inferior to current German aircraft.As a result, it issued a new set of requirements which included a minimum airspeed of 400 … Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. 6, D and E). Do you mean P38? Both were great planes with some of the most advanced aeronautical engineering of the day incorporated in their airframes and powerplants. "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation". Both on paper and in practice they were equal planes. Cat the hairer meat! It has been a long time since I studied the plane much so I really don't recall the specifics or the details, but the engines I think were supercharged Merlins, it also had a very long range when using drop tanks, which made it an ideal bomber escort as well as interceptor. The D version with the tear drop canopy made it much better especially in combat. The 51 was closest to a pure fighter the 38 was close too but had a strong ground attack and the 47 was almost never used as a fighter it was close air support. The Republic P-47 Thunderbolt is a World War II-era fighter aircraft produced by the American aerospace company Republic Aviation from 1941 through 1945. Very fast,( it could outrun an ME109) could climb high, very manuverable and could carry ( and did) a small bomb load for ground attack. The American fighter pilot spotted two indistinct shapes cutting diagonally across a road just slightly above and in front of him. A large and powerful aircraft, it served as a bomber escort, a tactical bomber, and a photo-reconnaissance platform. 185 months. F-35 Lightning II vs Chengdu J-10; WillowRun, both the P38 and the P47 were capable of carrying nearly as much ordnance as a medium bomber, as well as excellent high altitude performance. This is a very good example of how pilots misjudge the abilities of the enemy plane - almost always, when a pilot shotdowns a plane he thinks that the enemy plane had poor performance, if he gets shot he will say that his own plane had poor performance, like there is … P38s did have superchargers on their Allisons, they are visible in the booms. The Lowell vs. Galland story is an old chestnut. 190 and corsair are even. 9,886 posts. I've always liked the Thunderbolts better. Cancel Reply. Carl. My article "The Best Fighter Planes of World War II" has attracted more than its share of e-mail from readers. The 47 used a radial engine. Of the three outstanding Army fighters of the war (the others being the P-47 Thunderbolt But, of course, both Thunderbolts had the same father. I don't feel as though the role of the P-47 has really ever been portrayed accurately as there is a clear bias in the mind of the public as it relates to being able to recognize the role of the -47 vs. the -51. P-38s could fly back with one engine shot out. P47: One Pratt and Whitney R-2800-21 engine rated at 2,000 hp Empty: 10,710 lb Maximum Takeoff: 16,215 lb Performance Speed: 433 mph (697 km/h) Ceiling: 42,000 ft -- P-47D Range: 1,725 miles (2,776 km) 8 m2 .50 caliber MG's Both are large fighters. Also it has enough ammo and fuel to loiter and spray and pray, and maintains better control authority at … Colonel J.L. The P-47 climbed like a homesick angel and dived for the deck like a rock. P38 was decreed by the USAAF to be too expensive for a role which the cheaper P 47 and the much cheaper P 51 filled arguably more effectively. From sea level, the P-51B gradually gains on the P-38J and the P-47D until, at 16,000 ft. it has a speed of about 420 mph which is about ten mph faster than the … Very closely matched, but very different advantages. Assume the German DEDICATES to climbing You are NOT getting above him How do you win a fight as a US pilot at the 4.7-5.0 tier Assume the German doesnt make any GLARING mistakes either Any tactic RELYING on your enemy making a mistake, is a bad tactic The Republic P-47 Thunderbolt is a single-engine single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber aircraft produced by the US-American manufacturer Republic Aviation Corporation. P-38, fighter and fighter-bomber employed by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Verifying your email address also improves the security of your Ubisoft account, helps us provide you better support, and ensures you don't miss out on exclusive content, newsletters, and other special offers. 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